tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5401303513147172759.post8612642884284756597..comments2023-10-30T12:15:21.733-04:00Comments on State of Thought: Tea Is Just GoldwaterState of Thoughthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10367399699314075343noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5401303513147172759.post-73126864602124175972011-11-10T15:52:52.539-05:002011-11-10T15:52:52.539-05:00Actually, I think you guys agree with each other, ...Actually, I think you guys agree with each other, the second poster merely pointed out where the nucleus for this irrational approach came from. Now that you have Dick Armey and the Koch Brothers co-opting this, it can never be called grassroots. Perhaps Goldwater and his ilk were outliers in 1964, but the movement went sort of underground with the elite in corporations and "think tanks", then here comes ronnie raygun, one of the most regrettable Presidents of the 20th Century, if not the most. Ketchup Tomato Soup, anyone?Hamsterdamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03800559430614364676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5401303513147172759.post-75520830274954428132011-07-14T09:33:08.542-04:002011-07-14T09:33:08.542-04:00Alex,
What is the alleged "despotic" or...Alex,<br /><br />What is the alleged "despotic" organization against which you claim to be protesting? If you think there is currently an actual despotism in America, you may need to brush up on what a despotism actually looks like. There's no single entity ruling with absolute power in America.<br /><br />I do not use the word "corporation" as a bad thing. Corporations can be -- and often are -- a valuable economic tool. They even have potential to be used for real good, especially in the case of some charitable corporations. I was pointing out that the real Boston Tea Party was protesting against corporate power whereas the so called "Tea Party movement" is protesting in the interests of corporate power -- especially Koch Industries -- and with corporate funding. The fact that many in the Tea Party movement do not realize how much of their funding and materials are provided by Koch Industries and a few other similar interests does not change the fact that they have become [perhaps unwitting] pawns of those corporate interests. Unfortunately, these particular corporations that provide funding and materials to herd the "Tea Party" towards their ends don't seem to be among the more benign corporations.State of Thoughthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10367399699314075343noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5401303513147172759.post-87372064718996530732011-06-20T07:43:12.941-04:002011-06-20T07:43:12.941-04:00Before it was hijacked by the "right" co...Before it was hijacked by the "right" commies (aka the "GOP"), the "Tea Party" was purely a Ron Paul campaign phenomenon, with much support from libertarians, Objectivists, and even Anarcho-Capitalists who wouldn't be caught dead in the same room as any politician other than Ron Paul. On Nov 5th 2007 (OK, the connection to the <i>V for Vendetta</i> movie is a bit silly), Ron Paul fans had an independently-organized "<a rel="nofollow">money bomb</a>" event that raised $4.3 million in a single day. <a href="http://fundrace.huffingtonpost.com/neighbors.php?type=name&oldest=1&lname=Libman&fname=Alex&search=Search" rel="nofollow">We</a> were then searching for another memorable date for our next "money bomb", and the chosen date was the anniversary of the Boston Tea Party, Dec 16 2007, when over $6 million was raised.<br /><br />The later mainstream "Tea Party movement" from outside of the Ron Paul campaign didn't arise <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Party_movement#Background_and_history" rel="nofollow">until 2009</a>. That movement is very diverse and decentralized, and any mainstream politicians trying to jump in front and lead that parade are only pretending to be in control.<br /><br />If/when that movement represents libertarian anti-government ideals, the reference to the Boston Tea Party was entirely appropriate, as we are protesting a despotic organization that, because of some socialist religious delusion, many believe has a "divine right" to a monopoly on violence. Your claim that we have "representatives" who "represent" us without individual consent is just as illogical as the claim that the American colonies had proper representatives in London prior to the Revolution.<br /><br />Your use of the word "corporation" as a bad thing is completely illogical. A "corporation" is a voluntary agreement between individuals, like a marriage, a Web-site, a non-profit organization, etc. Corporations are the individuals that form them, and individuals have Rights that are being violated through institutionalized government force.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com